Pre-Game Assessments
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:52:07 pm(Also posting to see how hot I am this Season 
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Kirati Tribe
I don't see any real massive weak links on Kirati. No obvious first boots and no monolith player that is unbeatable. So much will depend too, on who is elected Ambassador and how much the tribe breakdown shifts around each round. They should be solid in challenges despite half them being first-time players. In a three tribe set-up this could be enough to keep them intact through the shuffle with a slew of second-places for safety without painting a big target on them.
Some General predictions; Angie & Lisa to become a super-tight pair. Chris & Zane the same, and if Artis doesn't link with these two early, he'll be first boot over here. And if Denise were to take the obvious route and link up with the girls.. well then it's already 3v3 and Carter floating. And ofc Carter is the one player I just can't call from his app.. who knows where he'd lean?
Most likely early boot; Artis or Carter
Most likely winner; Angie or Zane
Chris
(aka justincorporated)
This guy applying every Season
At least we know he is eager. Justin is a familiar name to me but I've never actually played directly with him and hosted him just the once in Costa Rica. He is still the most veteran of the three returnees, does he host his own ProBoards series of some sort? But I thought that last time too and in his app he says how he was still a noob last go round.
My impression of him is that he is maybe a little cold socially and ..um, not a gamebot, but definitely leaning that direction. His bonds are the type where it's good business and not just based on who sent the most lovehearts to him. I like this type of player - if I can see why you aligning with me is good for you, then I can trust you so long as I don't see a better route for you - buuuuut, a lot of people don't, and would prefer the luvvy dovey players.
From what I remember he is very good at challenges. I think his tribe will keep him for that alone so long as he embraces leadership instead of trying to shirk it. (I wrote this originally thinking he was auto-Ambassador. I could see the returnees getting voted in to that regardless.
I expect he will do well enough. Let's say sixth-ish, taken out post-merge at some point for being a challenge threat.
Angie
(aka Minah)
Best app? Probst thinks so
This girl seems like a natural. She mentions full-on in her app and lolyes, she totally is. That is an essay about Jerri Manthley in there. That LoL mindset is a good translation to ORGing and so long as you are dedicated and active, you will avoid the typical first-boot mistakes of not PMing or just not being here. That ought to get her past the first few rounds easy, and she is just extremely personable which I think will carry her later on. A little flirty, a little motor-mouthed, a little squealy-fangirl, and she will find some people to link up with based on these traits. And with that cute an avatar, who could boot her anyway? I can see her getting in real tight with a little clique of three or four players and being the glue of that without being the leader.
She fears for her abilities in challenges but she seems very computer literate so she'll be just fine there and maybe a surprise challenge whore even.
I think she will do very well, in fact I can see her being a Jury threat and leaving late game for that reason. But she just might sneak the win. I expect she will be fun as fuck and a host fave regardless of placement.
Artis
(aka NasalJack)
I was about to say how he would hate the Artis rep but I see he actually picked it. It is a really good fit for him going by his app. I think he is very intelligent and will be a good strategic gamer, but he is also very weak socially both due to being a bit shy, and maybe underestimating just how much a good bond formed will tide you through a tough round more than it making strategic sense. And maybe even being a bit grouchy? I think he will click with Chris very easily, and I think both will not like Angie. (I should really read everything then post instead of reading them one at a time here).
I like that he has a very detailed and complex gameplan prepped, and then caps it by saying this could all be for naught if the situation doesn't fit. It shows he is thinking, but also flexible and smart enough to realise that you can't plan for this shit any more than very vaguely.
What else.., I see you gave him a decent Skype run-through, but I can still see this being a classic first-time-player's game. Where he is still getting to grips with a lot of the basics and is overly cautious and doesn't put himself out there enough. Sometimes that'll work out if your tribe is either strong enough to avoid the TCs, or so weak you look good in comparison. But idk, I get an early boot vibe, but someone who will be back in some future game with a much better idea of what needs to be done and more comfortable and confident.
Predicting one of;
early tribe boot;
early tribe trade-away and then boot by new tribe;
into tribe majority, so carried to merge by tribe and merge boot;
or into dominant tribal majority, and dragged deep with no chance to actually win .
Not a good result for him whichever way it plays out.
Carter
(aka Robbroy45)
I am both excited for a ChrisD fan, and vomming for a Tom W fan, make up your mind dammit! I am not sure this is a good rep-fit. He seems to go for big-move players, and Carter was anything but. He does seem to have youth on his side but not too much, I mean more in game terms than RL. RL wise he is graduating from college so we can know he's got some smarts, I wonder if he'll play himself down and into the role? He does mention some tactics based around dumbing things down in his app too.
Going by the Skype he has an infectious enthusiasm that isn't quite evident in the app either. I think he'll be a little cautious for the first week, one of these - very little personality in public but lots of talk/thinking in confessional and with one or two select PM chains - but get past a TC or two and he'll ramp his game up once he is comfortable with the set-up of the game.
Prediction wise I don't really know at all. If he does slow-build from off-the-radar to big name that right there is a winning strategy. OTOH he could just as easily flop hard and get cut early. I am gonna mark him down for a mid-game finish, even though I'm feeling it's gonna be a more extreme placement to one end or the other.
Denise
(aka Lor)
I am getting serious Gina vibes here. I don't want to say 'boring', but lets go with un-exciting. Just very capable and good at stuff and doesn't really strike me as someone who is gonna flip on a whim unless she is very confident it is most definitely for the best and failsafe. How very vanilla. She is fresh to ORGing though, so maybe we'll get some noob errors to spice up her game some. She sells herself as obsessive too, so maybe more Helen than Gina I ended up loving both Gina & Helen so there's plenty of hope here.
On the plus side she is capable and level-headed and I am gonna predict way too loyal, and this tribe is gonna need the splash of that in between the crazy and the cut-throat, so from that perspective she'll be a little different and maybe even stand-out. I would love to see her tribe go nuts and her just be swept along as the sober player on a sinking ship trying to translate events into her own terms. And I do think the stimulus to pep up her game is gonna have to come from the people she's interacting with instead of from herself.
I don't want to trash her too hard before Season even starts, and moving on to her Skype convo she comes across a little better and less cookie-cutter than in the app. And please don't take my word as God here. I am sure she will appeal more to different people. And I'm sure in my first game I would have read exactly the same (except more clueless lol).
I will predict her to do as well as her tribe does (opposite of RL Denise lol). And that is really tricky in a three tribe game. If they do well early she'll do well, but they'll get teamed up on at merge as will she. So if they suck early, and make it to merge in the minority they (& she) are maybe even better off and she could turn things around if they can as a group. How very vague of me. Let's say early post-merge boot. 10th-ish
Lisa
(aka Voltage)
I am afraid everyone else here knows Voltage better than I do. I always thought he was a dA recruit but I see he's never played a single dA game whoops. Never played with him, never hosted him, so purely based on his App; she is quite young for this cast but one of the more experienced players here with a few games under her belt (also I clearly just now discovered he is actually a she
). Seems to work best in tiny groups of twos and threes than in big old alliances - I can see her & Angie clicking really well?
Other than that I'm not picking up much here. I like that she acknowledges that she is prone to screwing things up - that is both good awareness and promising for entertainment's sake for us. I think I will leave the rest of this write-up to the hosts that know her better.
FWIW I loved Lisa and it seems like a good fit despite the age difference. In ORG terms, she is way older/more experienced than 90% of this cast - but even then she has that noobness that Lisa had in that the few who are more experienced than her (i.e. Debb/Chris), are waaaaaaay more experienced than her.
For a prediction I don't know at all. Knowing the ropes will get her a certain amount through the game and she might even land with a kind of leaderish/old hand position in the eyes of Angie/Artis/Carter. But again she is not that experienced so I think will stumble somewhere pretty early. MOR finish somewhere tween late pre-merge or in that weird 10th-7th time of game. Let's say swap-fucked by shuffle or Ambassador.
Zane
(aka Connman2612 / AusStranded's Jaison)
I wish I had swung into his application thread earlier, because I have to respectfully disagree with the "follower" label. Yes he did lose unanimously in his debut AusStranded Season, but from what I've seen of that game during and afterwards he was very much an equal partner to Marty (i.e. our Vytas) and was even the safer of the two by not seeming so big a threat. his big mistake there was actually going to the end with Marty but iirc, he challenged whored his way so couldn't have been cut even if J was willing. Meanwhile in the Expendables, he was very thorough and stable and got swapfucked in a game where the two sides had such a sheep tribe mentality. The final seven or something was all from the one beginning tribe. If anything, he was taken out that early for being one of the more threatening from his tribe.
He has a real eagerness about his app too - like not just enthusiasm but rather a chip on his shoulder and a score to settle. I think and hope that in-game this could translate to a real bona fide Villain and not just the wannabe villains who are trying to be seen as such. I am actually quite excited to see him play now and it's the top app for me that I've read so far. I kind of think he's really gonna grab this game by the balls for better or worse. #theZaneShow
Add to this he has a little experience, he'll be good enough in challenges and he knows his way around a forum. I think he'll be just grand. And maybe even the dark horse to win the lot.
Prediction; I have yet to read up on the other two tribes, but I'll stake him as Winner
)Kirati Tribe
I don't see any real massive weak links on Kirati. No obvious first boots and no monolith player that is unbeatable. So much will depend too, on who is elected Ambassador and how much the tribe breakdown shifts around each round. They should be solid in challenges despite half them being first-time players. In a three tribe set-up this could be enough to keep them intact through the shuffle with a slew of second-places for safety without painting a big target on them.
Some General predictions; Angie & Lisa to become a super-tight pair. Chris & Zane the same, and if Artis doesn't link with these two early, he'll be first boot over here. And if Denise were to take the obvious route and link up with the girls.. well then it's already 3v3 and Carter floating. And ofc Carter is the one player I just can't call from his app.. who knows where he'd lean?
Most likely early boot; Artis or Carter
Most likely winner; Angie or Zane
Chris(aka justincorporated)
This guy applying every Season
At least we know he is eager. Justin is a familiar name to me but I've never actually played directly with him and hosted him just the once in Costa Rica. He is still the most veteran of the three returnees, does he host his own ProBoards series of some sort? But I thought that last time too and in his app he says how he was still a noob last go round.My impression of him is that he is maybe a little cold socially and ..um, not a gamebot, but definitely leaning that direction. His bonds are the type where it's good business and not just based on who sent the most lovehearts to him. I like this type of player - if I can see why you aligning with me is good for you, then I can trust you so long as I don't see a better route for you - buuuuut, a lot of people don't, and would prefer the luvvy dovey players.
From what I remember he is very good at challenges. I think his tribe will keep him for that alone so long as he embraces leadership instead of trying to shirk it. (I wrote this originally thinking he was auto-Ambassador. I could see the returnees getting voted in to that regardless.
I expect he will do well enough. Let's say sixth-ish, taken out post-merge at some point for being a challenge threat.
Angie(aka Minah)
Best app? Probst thinks so
This girl seems like a natural. She mentions full-on in her app and lolyes, she totally is. That is an essay about Jerri Manthley in there. That LoL mindset is a good translation to ORGing and so long as you are dedicated and active, you will avoid the typical first-boot mistakes of not PMing or just not being here. That ought to get her past the first few rounds easy, and she is just extremely personable which I think will carry her later on. A little flirty, a little motor-mouthed, a little squealy-fangirl, and she will find some people to link up with based on these traits. And with that cute an avatar, who could boot her anyway?
I can see her getting in real tight with a little clique of three or four players and being the glue of that without being the leader.She fears for her abilities in challenges but she seems very computer literate so she'll be just fine there and maybe a surprise challenge whore even.
I think she will do very well, in fact I can see her being a Jury threat and leaving late game for that reason. But she just might sneak the win. I expect she will be fun as fuck and a host fave regardless of placement.
Artis(aka NasalJack)
I was about to say how he would hate the Artis rep but I see he actually picked it. It is a really good fit for him going by his app. I think he is very intelligent and will be a good strategic gamer, but he is also very weak socially both due to being a bit shy, and maybe underestimating just how much a good bond formed will tide you through a tough round more than it making strategic sense. And maybe even being a bit grouchy? I think he will click with Chris very easily, and I think both will not like Angie. (I should really read everything then post instead of reading them one at a time here).
I like that he has a very detailed and complex gameplan prepped, and then caps it by saying this could all be for naught if the situation doesn't fit. It shows he is thinking, but also flexible and smart enough to realise that you can't plan for this shit any more than very vaguely.
What else.., I see you gave him a decent Skype run-through, but I can still see this being a classic first-time-player's game. Where he is still getting to grips with a lot of the basics and is overly cautious and doesn't put himself out there enough. Sometimes that'll work out if your tribe is either strong enough to avoid the TCs, or so weak you look good in comparison. But idk, I get an early boot vibe, but someone who will be back in some future game with a much better idea of what needs to be done and more comfortable and confident.
Predicting one of;
early tribe boot;
early tribe trade-away and then boot by new tribe;
into tribe majority, so carried to merge by tribe and merge boot;
or into dominant tribal majority, and dragged deep with no chance to actually win .
Not a good result for him whichever way it plays out.
Carter(aka Robbroy45)
I am both excited for a ChrisD fan, and vomming for a Tom W fan, make up your mind dammit! I am not sure this is a good rep-fit. He seems to go for big-move players, and Carter was anything but. He does seem to have youth on his side but not too much, I mean more in game terms than RL. RL wise he is graduating from college so we can know he's got some smarts, I wonder if he'll play himself down and into the role? He does mention some tactics based around dumbing things down in his app too.
Going by the Skype he has an infectious enthusiasm that isn't quite evident in the app either. I think he'll be a little cautious for the first week, one of these - very little personality in public but lots of talk/thinking in confessional and with one or two select PM chains - but get past a TC or two and he'll ramp his game up once he is comfortable with the set-up of the game.
Prediction wise I don't really know at all. If he does slow-build from off-the-radar to big name that right there is a winning strategy. OTOH he could just as easily flop hard and get cut early. I am gonna mark him down for a mid-game finish, even though I'm feeling it's gonna be a more extreme placement to one end or the other.
Denise (aka Lor)
I am getting serious Gina vibes here. I don't want to say 'boring', but lets go with un-exciting. Just very capable and good at stuff and doesn't really strike me as someone who is gonna flip on a whim unless she is very confident it is most definitely for the best and failsafe. How very vanilla. She is fresh to ORGing though, so maybe we'll get some noob errors to spice up her game some. She sells herself as obsessive too, so maybe more Helen than Gina
I ended up loving both Gina & Helen so there's plenty of hope here.On the plus side she is capable and level-headed and I am gonna predict way too loyal, and this tribe is gonna need the splash of that in between the crazy and the cut-throat, so from that perspective she'll be a little different and maybe even stand-out. I would love to see her tribe go nuts and her just be swept along as the sober player on a sinking ship trying to translate events into her own terms. And I do think the stimulus to pep up her game is gonna have to come from the people she's interacting with instead of from herself.
I don't want to trash her too hard before Season even starts, and moving on to her Skype convo she comes across a little better and less cookie-cutter than in the app. And please don't take my word as God here. I am sure she will appeal more to different people. And I'm sure in my first game I would have read exactly the same (except more clueless lol).
I will predict her to do as well as her tribe does (opposite of RL Denise lol). And that is really tricky in a three tribe game. If they do well early she'll do well, but they'll get teamed up on at merge as will she. So if they suck early, and make it to merge in the minority they (& she) are maybe even better off and she could turn things around if they can as a group. How very vague of me. Let's say early post-merge boot. 10th-ish
Lisa(aka Voltage)
I am afraid everyone else here knows Voltage better than I do. I always thought he was a dA recruit but I see he's never played a single dA game whoops. Never played with him, never hosted him, so purely based on his App; she is quite young for this cast but one of the more experienced players here with a few games under her belt (also I clearly just now discovered he is actually a she
). Seems to work best in tiny groups of twos and threes than in big old alliances - I can see her & Angie clicking really well?Other than that I'm not picking up much here. I like that she acknowledges that she is prone to screwing things up - that is both good awareness and promising for entertainment's sake for us. I think I will leave the rest of this write-up to the hosts that know her better.
FWIW I loved Lisa and it seems like a good fit despite the age difference. In ORG terms, she is way older/more experienced than 90% of this cast - but even then she has that noobness that Lisa had in that the few who are more experienced than her (i.e. Debb/Chris), are waaaaaaay more experienced than her.
For a prediction I don't know at all. Knowing the ropes will get her a certain amount through the game and she might even land with a kind of leaderish/old hand position in the eyes of Angie/Artis/Carter. But again she is not that experienced so I think will stumble somewhere pretty early. MOR finish somewhere tween late pre-merge or in that weird 10th-7th time of game. Let's say swap-fucked by shuffle or Ambassador.
Zane (aka Connman2612 / AusStranded's Jaison)
I wish I had swung into his application thread earlier, because I have to respectfully disagree with the "follower" label. Yes he did lose unanimously in his debut AusStranded Season, but from what I've seen of that game during and afterwards he was very much an equal partner to Marty (i.e. our Vytas) and was even the safer of the two by not seeming so big a threat. his big mistake there was actually going to the end with Marty but iirc, he challenged whored his way so couldn't have been cut even if J was willing. Meanwhile in the Expendables, he was very thorough and stable and got swapfucked in a game where the two sides had such a sheep tribe mentality. The final seven or something was all from the one beginning tribe. If anything, he was taken out that early for being one of the more threatening from his tribe.
He has a real eagerness about his app too - like not just enthusiasm but rather a chip on his shoulder and a score to settle. I think and hope that in-game this could translate to a real bona fide Villain and not just the wannabe villains who are trying to be seen as such. I am actually quite excited to see him play now and it's the top app for me that I've read so far. I kind of think he's really gonna grab this game by the balls for better or worse. #theZaneShow
Add to this he has a little experience, he'll be good enough in challenges and he knows his way around a forum. I think he'll be just grand. And maybe even the dark horse to win the lot.
Prediction; I have yet to read up on the other two tribes, but I'll stake him as Winner
He's a natural fidget and if things are on cruise control and he gets bored, he 
and it leads me to think her playstyle will also be very.. nice 
We don't need to know your qualifications before every statement. Saying 'As an xyz' just makes you sound proud & pretentious. 
