Episode 13 Commentary

[Ashley Underwood]

Alright everyone, first things first.

We DO have a FF poll and I would really love for you guys to contribute to it:


EPISODE 11 (DENISE BOOT)
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or DIRECT LINK:



EPISODE 12 (RICHARD BOOT)
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or DIRECT LINK:



If you don't want to provide a full ranking, just give a partial one in the thread. TYIA

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That vote. Was so good. LMAO.

[Jenna]

RIP in piece Rai.

Eat yo Raice.

[Ralph]

RIP in piece Rai.

Eat yo Raice.

ilysm

[Ashley Underwood]

[Ashley Underwood]

Oh yeah, I know that came across as mega strutty & arrogant. I know I need to keep this in check, yet not get complacent. Long way to go to get to the end.

4 TC's to go.

What I mean is I may be the HBIC, but need to be careful about not appearing to be the HBIC, lol.

Discuss.

[Kel]

So Tina and Jeff are working together with Carter and Angie, but only to get out Rich or is it beyond that? Kimmi is non-suspicious, Debb is onto at least Tina?

Tina is overplaying. Jeff still looks sparkly clean to both sides.

And three idols left to play in two rounds, possessors being relatively secret. . .

[Caryn]

Nah, Jeff/Tina only did that to split the votes in case one of Richard/Angie/Carter had an idol. It was last minute.

But now Angie/Carter think Jeff/Tina are working with them, which is not the case.

[Kel]

no, in PMs, Jeff and Tina have both confirmed that they were intentionally hoping to move it to Richard?

[Kel]

From Tina's Confesh, which is a better source than the PMs I'm alluding to:

Angie is still in the game, because I wanted her still here. I need her as my shield, at least for this weekend.

Rich had to take the fall. Simply, I did not have that much of a read on Rich. I didnt get to talk to him too much (covered a lot of this in the last rounds confesh) and days would go between msgs from him. He was someone I think some people may have underestimated, but anyone that is playing with Hatch as his rep is always going to have something up his sleeve. And people may have been more tempted to stray from how I want them positioned if he was still around, rather than having them all there and focused on Angie.

Besides, with Chris having prevoted for Angie it really ties Chris to Madhouse, but most importantly to myself. But by my voting with Angie and he voting against her, people may not see us as a tight duo, and I trust Debb enough that she knows where I am at with this. But if there is any chance of a reconciliation between Chris and Angie it will have to come through me.

[Chad]

Tina's got a bit of an ego there, eh?

[Caryn]

Tina and Chris remind me a lot of Patricia and Gabe from Venezuela, they're always flipping their votes.

Personally, I think Chris is in control, not Tina.

[Jenna]

I'm assuming Madhouse is the Madhesi alliance, right?

And there's so many characters who need a downfall this season.

[Caryn]

The only person who's downfall will be epic is Jeff, because he's been in a prime position to win this thing since Day 1, and the other 6 haven't. He had one bad round where he found himself in the minority but now he's solid again. He's like the Malcolm of Stranded.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Chris is the frontrunner right now. He's known for being a silent threat in games who does things behind the scenes and he's doing the same thing here. Obviously the jury perceives him as being a follower, but Chris should be able to easily sway them if he makes the FTC. I think Hayden said it best in Ponderosa when he said that Chris acts like he doesn't give a shit when he actually does.

[Jenna]

The only person who's downfall will be epic is Jeff, because he's been in a prime position to win this thing since Day 1, and the other 6 haven't. He had one bad round where he found himself in the minority but now he's solid again. He's like the Malcolm of Stranded.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, Chris is the frontrunner right now. He's known for being a silent threat in games who does things behind the scenes and he's doing the same thing here. Obviously the jury perceives him as being a follower, but Chris should be able to easily sway them if he makes the FTC. I think Hayden said it best in Ponderosa when he said that Chris acts like he doesn't give a shit when he actually does.

Wow, that's a really good analysis of Chris. TBH I keep forgetting about him, but at the same time he's always in a safe spot.

[Ken]

Wow I thought I was just casually stepping in a week late. I missed too much ;___;. Perhaps I should have took a closer look at the start date.

[Caryn]

Can Tina like GTFO?

The ego on that stupid bitch...

[Kel]

^^^
I'm no Tina-ite, but her last confessional was devoted to how Chris needs to be voted out because otherwise he is a threat to win the entire game. Which is what you *just* said. So . . . . ??

[Caryn]

No, you idiot. She thinks she's running the game when she isn't.

[Jeff Probst]

I'm really happy with how Tina has become a huge villain with a massive ego, when she's basically been the foil to a majority of plans this season. I think the best part about Tina is how frustratingly arrogant she is when she hasn't dont a whole lot to back it up. I mean, she was pretty much just making sure people DIDN'T make moves at all this entire season, even when she was in on and stood to benefit from the moves. So in that sense, she has become a good character I suppose, by default.

Also, Chris I don't think has a shot at winning. I agree he's playing amazingly, he's giving us a lot of great stuff, he's shifting alliances all the time, but I think he's probably pissed off his allies too much to get their votes, and I think he's been too inactive to warrant any kind of win. I mean, he's literally missed the vast majority of live events the entire game, so that alone will probably nullify any good he does in the game. I just think he has a reputation for being inactive.

Jeff's pissed off too many players opposing him, HOWEVER, I do think with the right argument, unlike chris, he could end up winning. He's basically a cartoon character villain, but I think with the right speech he could take it in the end. Especially against Kimmi and Debb or even Tina.

[Jeff Probst]

Also, wanted to add, Tina's comment with her being frustrated by me saying that you need to show people you've made moves in the game, is the exact reason why players like her end up going to the end and getting 0 votes. I actually think in this particular season, she could very well win with a strong final 3 performance, but It's the mindset of "well, I'll just convince them that i was actually playing when i get to the final 3" that ruins seasons and makes players goats. To say "if that's the case, then why even have jury questions" is so ridiculous. You're basically telling me that you don't deserve to win just based on your actions, but instead have to rely on explaining to the jury why you should win. It's bullshit IMO, what do you all think?